Careful with that meat cleaver, Michael

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The “Religion of Peace” has struck again in a barbaric execution on a busy London street in broad daylight.

To prevent this from happening again we must consider root causes. What are they?

Easy question to answer!

(1) Islam
(2) Blowback

Or in the perpetrator’s own words

The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers. And this British soldier is one, it is eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

By Allah, we swear by the almighty Allah, we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone.

So what if we want to live by the Sharia in Muslim lands, why does that mean you must kill us and chase us … in suicide, kill us?

Rather, you are extreme. When you drop a bomb do you think it kills one person or, rather, your bomb wipes out a whole family? This is the reality.

And by the way, if I saw your mother today with a buggy I would help her up the stairs. This is my nature.

But we are forced by the Koran […] Many, many ayah throughout the Koran [say that] we must fight them as they fight us, an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

I apologise that women had to witness this today, but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe.

Remove your government, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? You think your politicians are going to die? No it’s going to be the average guy, like you, and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so we can … you can all live in peace. Leave our lands and you will live in peace.

That’s all I have to say.

I have two suggestions for the West.

(1) We put a moratorium on Muslim immigration until further notice.
(2) We withdraw all troops from Muslim lands.

That’ll fix the problem in no time.

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30 Responses to Careful with that meat cleaver, Michael

  1. Tim Wikiriwhi says:

    So you are suggesting the State pass laws whicg descriminate according to Religion now Richard? …and you think that is part of the solution???? Dont you think that such a move would actually legitimize the Radicals assertions that the West is the enemy of Islam? That their clims to freedom is a complete lie? That their rejection of Radicalism is complete hypocrasy because they impliment their own form of Anti-muslim ‘Sharia’ Laws…???? Are you not being a collectivist thought Nazi??? Why have you chosen the ‘simplistic/ draconian path?? You prefer Safety to Liberty???? I could go on all night!

  2. Richard says:

    I’m suggesting that the state pass *immigration* laws that discriminate against *any* religion that advocates jihad against infidels. This would not legitimise assertions that the West is the enemy of Islam, because my solution is a two part solution, the second part is that the West withdraws all troops from Muslim lands.

    It’s a strictly libertarian, “live and let live” solution to an increasingly urgent problem.

    (1) They leave us alone (because put a moratorium on Muslim immigration until further notice), and
    (2) We leave them alone (because we withdraw all troops from Muslim lands)

  3. Brendan says:

    Richard

    Good on you for raising awareness of the problem with Islam. We can afford the luxury of debating how ‘libertarian’ such policies would be; we don’t have to live in the mulitcultural hell that exists for many native Britians.

  4. Tony says:

    Bit of a knee jerk I would have thought, Richard.
    We don’t have any Muslim criminal problems or Jihad problems in New Zealand do we, Richard?
    We do seem to have a lot of Maori in our prisons, but not many Muslims.

    Should we chuck out all the Maoris? Or put all of them in prisons, just in case?

    One nutter went berserk, Richard. And you would be happy it seems to nuke them.
    Settle down. When you react like this, you hand victory to the terrorists.
    Settle down.

  5. Richard says:

    We don’t have any Muslim criminal problems or Jihad problems in New Zealand do we, Richard?

    Not yet.

    Should we chuck out all the Maoris? Or put all of them in prisons, just in case?

    No, that would be racist.

    And you would be happy it seems to nuke them.

    Not at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. Read my post. I advocate withdrawing all troops from Muslim lands.

    Settle down.

    We leave them alone and they leave us alone. Do I sound agitated?

  6. Glenn says:

    Tim,

    “the West is the enemy of Islam”

    The West IS the enemy of Islam. We support egalitarian democracy.

  7. Don McKenzie says:

    Tony, with due respect you are unaware of what is happening in South Auckland re Muslim speech in the mosques right here in NZ. I suggest you bone up on what is happening in Europe. We can learn from their mistakes. There will be bloodshed on the streets in Europe, only a matter of time now. Islam is not a religion of peace. Check out MEMRI on the web and read what is said about us in some of the Arab newspapers . Check out the cartoons against the Jews. I would definitely put a halt to all further Muslim immigration and I would definitely pull out troops from Muslim countries and stop supporting them with funding as does Europe and the US. Why spill our troops blood for such a backward hateful lot?

  8. Richard Wiig says:

    I see that you haven’t learned that we are at war yet, Tim.

  9. Richard Wiig says:

    “One nutter went berserk, Richard.”

    Hardly! The guy was very cool, calm, and collected, and knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it.

    Muhammad said: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57)

  10. Richard says:

    The guy was very cool, calm, and collected, and knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it.

    And he gave a damn good speech, IMHO.

  11. Richard Wiig says:

    Yes, he spoke well, with an English accent, although he stated clearly that he didn’t consider himself to be a British subject.

  12. Richard says:

    he stated clearly that he didn’t consider himself to be a British subject.

    At one point, he says ‘we’, then corrects himself and says ‘you’. Also, he refers to “our troops”. Identity crisis?

  13. Richard Wiig says:

    I think actions speak louder than words.

  14. Tim Wikiriwhi says:

    Glen,
    I am not at War with Islam. If we are at war with Islam then what this guy did was justifiable.
    We are at war with Anti-freedom Religious Collectivism… the sort of lunacy which suggests “we are at war with Islam”.
    You are as guilty of this sort of error of judgement as those Atheists who say the Holy Roman Empire and the Crusades represents Christianity.

  15. Tim Wikiriwhi says:

    Glen, you do know the difference between a free (Libertarian) society, and a Socialist democracy (like the West)?
    You do know that in *our Bogus system* that if 51% of the people/ parliament vote in Shiria Law that It will become Law founded upon the democratic principle… which you say is supposed to be ‘the enemy’ of Islam???
    You do understand that *Your Democracy* can pseudo-legitimise Majority Muslim oppression of Christian minorities???
    Thus Democracy is in no way superior to or a defense from Religious dictatorship.
    It’s mob rule.

  16. Tim Wikiriwhi says:

    Beheading in London proves importance of 2nd Amendment, right to carry

    http://www.examiner.com/article/beheading-london-proves-importance-of-2nd-amendment-right-to-carry

  17. Richard Wiig says:

    Tim, it isn’t a case of us being war with Islam, its a case of Islam being at war with us. Since that is the case, then we see at war. We haven’t initiated. They have.

  18. Tony says:

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m happy to see this guy dead.

    But he is a “black Muslim”.

    Why is it legitimate to target his religion, while not being legitimate to target his race?

    None of us see racism as being appropriate these days, but we feel perfectly free to discriminate against his religion.

    Okay, we say one Muslim went berserk, so all Muslims must be bad.
    But do we say one black man went berserk, so all Blacks must be bad?

    Come clean, you are prejudice against religion, it being a religion that worships the same God you worship.

    We don’t have a Muslim problem in New Zealand. Don’t create one here in the confines of your head, then spread the poison. Instead, celebrate the void of a problem here. Peace out, brothers.

  19. Richard Wiig says:

    Islam is a system of ideas and therefore chosen. Race is I chosen and accidental. It should be obvious why its legitimate to attack one but not the other.

  20. Richard says:

    We don’t have a Muslim problem in New Zealand.

    Let’s keep it that way.

  21. Richard says:

    You do know that in *our Bogus system* that if 51% of the people/ parliament vote in Shiria Law that It will become Law founded upon the democratic principle… which you say is supposed to be ‘the enemy’ of Islam???
    You do understand that *Your Democracy* can pseudo-legitimise Majority Muslim oppression of Christian minorities???
    Thus Democracy is in no way superior to or a defense from Religious dictatorship.
    It’s mob rule.

    Tim, you’re exactly right. What you’ve said is exactly *why* we need immigration restrictions. Never mind 51% of the people/ parliament voting in Sharia law. Even a 5% Muslim voting block would be an unmitigated disaster.

    Imagine, not Winston Peters as “kingmaker”, but the next Michael Adebolajo as “caliphmaker” in a future NZ government. You’d be taking up arms and revolting alongside Tame Iti!

  22. Richard Wiig says:

    Let’s keep it that way.

    Too late. We already have a problem.

  23. Richard says:

    Too late. We already have a problem.

    In New Zealand? Link, please!

  24. Richard Wiig says:

    A problem in that there is an established Islamic population (you have already seen protests against the cartoons, in the face of which many media organisations backed down) as we head towards a world war. We are not isolated from Britain and Europe. Ultimately their problems will be our problems. Our immediate next door neighbour has a sizeable Islamic population that is growing constantly. There are 200 known Muslims from Australia who have gone to either fight alongside, or support the jihadists in Syria. The Caliphate movement is well established in Australia, and the population is largely oblivious. In my book, that is a problem.

  25. Richard Wiig says:

    We are at war with Anti-freedom Religious Collectivism… the sort of lunacy which suggests “we are at war with Islam”.

    Islam is anti-freedom religious collectivism, therefore, if you are at war against that, you are at war against Islam. It’s lunacy to not recognize that.

  26. Tony says:

    So let me see if I have this right.

    If you are born black, you’ve had no choice in the matter, so it’s not right to for others to discriminate against you. All good so far.

    But if you are born into a country which is 98 percent Muslim, and that is ruled by Sharia law, you supposedly have a choice to be other than Muslim, so you’re fair game to be discriminated against.

    FGS, for all that I am a devout Libertarian, thank the Lord you lot are not in Parliament. You’re all mad.

  27. Richard Wiig says:

    You have changed the context, Tony. Should you discriminate against Nazism, a system of ideas, or not? Should you discriminate against Nazis, who adhere to that fascist system of ideas, or not? Discrimination is essential for healthy living. Anyone born in an Islamic country who isn’t a Muslim by choice cannot be classed as a Muslim. That’s important, because the best thing that could be done for those people is that the West becomes a sanctuary from Islam if they seek it. That isn’t likely to happen though the way things stand. When those who wish to escape Islam arrive in the West they’ll find that what they’re escaping from is here ahead of them. This is the case already. Open immigration is a death warrant to liberty.

  28. Richard Wiig says:

    In regards to the identity crisis. Islam teaches loyalty to the Ummah first and foremost. A true Muslim is not a citizen of any nation state, he’s a citizen of the community of Islam. That is why you have the phenomenon of Muslims leaving the countries they reside in to go fight alongside their fellow Muslims in other countries that are completely alien to them. It would be interesting to know how many Muslims from New Zealand have done this.

  29. Richard says:

    But if you are born into a country which is 98 percent Muslim, and that is ruled by Sharia law, you supposedly have a choice to be other than Muslim, so you’re fair game to be discriminated against.

    It’s fair game to discriminate against religions that impose the death penalty for apostasy.

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