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Come near, you nations, and listen;
    pay attention, you peoples!
Let the earth hear, and all that is in it,
    the world, and all that comes out of it!
The Lord is angry with all nations;
    his wrath is on all their armies.
He will totally destroy them,
    he will give them over to slaughter.
Their slain will be thrown out,
    their dead bodies will stink;
    the mountains will be soaked with their blood.
All the stars in the sky will be dissolved
    and the heavens rolled up like a scroll;
all the starry host will fall
    like withered leaves from the vine,
    like shriveled figs from the fig tree.

My sword has drunk its fill in the heavens;
    see, it descends in judgment on Edom,
    the people I have totally destroyed.
The sword of the Lord is bathed in blood,
    it is covered with fat—
the blood of lambs and goats,
    fat from the kidneys of rams.
For the Lord has a sacrifice in Bozrah
    and a great slaughter in the land of Edom.
And the wild oxen will fall with them,
    the bull calves and the great bulls.
Their land will be drenched with blood,
    and the dust will be soaked with fat.

For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
    a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause.
Edom’s streams will be turned into pitch,
    her dust into burning sulfur;
    her land will become blazing pitch!
It will not be quenched night or day;
    its smoke will rise forever.
From generation to generation it will lie desolate;
    no one will ever pass through it again.
The desert owl and screech owl will possess it;
    the great owl and the raven will nest there.
God will stretch out over Edom
    the measuring line of chaos
    and the plumb line of desolation.
Her nobles will have nothing there to be called a kingdom,
    all her princes will vanish away.
Thorns will overrun her citadels,
    nettles and brambles her strongholds.
She will become a haunt for jackals,
    a home for owls.
Desert creatures will meet with hyenas,
    and wild goats will bleat to each other;
there the night creatures will also lie down
    and find for themselves places of rest.
The owl will nest there and lay eggs,
    she will hatch them, and care for her young
    under the shadow of her wings;
there also the falcons will gather,
    each with its mate.

Look in the scroll of the Lord and read:

None of these will be missing,
    not one will lack her mate.
For it is his mouth that has given the order,
    and his Spirit will gather them together.
He allots their portions;
    his hand distributes them by measure.
They will possess it forever
    and dwell there from generation to generation. (NIV)

The mother of Invention?

girl engineers

Engine installers at Douglas Aircraft. Long Beach, California. October 1942
from The Libertarian Republic

This picture speaks a thousand words to me
They say necessity is the mother of invention, yet as an Engineer I wonder why are the so few woman Engineers these days?
It’s not like you have to be built like Arnold Schwarzenegger to be a good engineer.
Modern tools do most of the Hard yacka.

Marilyn monroe
This worker in a Van Nuys, CA factory in 1944 soon started calling herself Marilyn Monroe.
(Pic from The Libertarian Republic)

“Any girl can be glamorous,” Hedy Lamarr once said. “All she has to do is stand still and look stupid.” The film star belied her own apothegm by hiding a brilliant, inventive mind beneath her photogenic exterior. In 1942, at the height of her Hollywood career, she patented a frequency-switching system for torpedo guidance that was two decades ahead of its time.

Hedy Lamarr (thanks Janie)

During WW2 woman put on overalls, and swung on spanners while their men busied themselves killing each other abroad and society nodded with approval at Woman getting their hands dirty.
Yet today so few woman even consider Engineering as a career.
Necessity is on vacation…. The Men have come home….and society has reverted back to tradition… to what is comfortable.

I think that’s kinda sad…


Yet maybe it’s for the best…

Who’s defaming who?


Joe Karam: I was attacked

David Bain supporter Joe Karam experienced “the worst four years of his life” as his reputation was “laid siege to” by the authors of the Justice For Robin Bain website, Karam’s lawyer says.

Karam is suing Kent Parker and Vic Purkiss in the High Court in Auckland for their branding of him as “a liar, fraudster, crook and scoundrel” in the wake of Bain’s retrial for the 1994 murder of his family.

Bain, supported by Karam, was found not guilty.

Karam’s lawyer, Michael Reed, QC, told Justice Patricia Courtney that Parker, a website developer from Havelock North, controlled the Counterspin website where statements defamatory of Karam had appeared.

Purkiss, who has not turned up today to defend the court action, was responsible for defamatory comments on social media, Reed said.

Reed said the media had picked up on the men’s campaign and made matters worse by “giving their soapbox an air of legitimacy”.

“Without question it has been the worst four years of Mr Karam’s life.”

Worst four years of Joe Karam’s life? I don’t believe it.

Reed said what was “masquerading as Justice For Robin Bain was nothing but spite for Joe Karam”.

It was a “most egregious, spiteful and vindictive campaign of defamation against [Karam]” to which Parker and Purkiss “cannot mount any tenable defence”.

I’m a member of the Facebook group(s) Justice For Robin Bain.

I’m not a member out of spite for Joe Karam. I’m a member because I seek Justice For Robin Bain.

I resent Reed’s comments. Who’s defaming who?

Reed said the defendants claimed Karam’s support of Bain was “purely cynical, his interest pecuniary”.

They likened Karam to the Nazis and North Korea, and labelled him “a tyrant, a pimp and someone who aided and abetted a murderer”.

Karam’s been running a trial by media that has found Robin Bain guilty of the Bain murders. But Robin Bain has never stood trial. There isn’t any evidence that he committed the murders. He is not guilty.

In view of this, it’s no wonder that people would speculate as to Karam’s motives in aiding and abetting David Bain. Karam needs to harden up.

Purely cynical, his interest pecuniary? One shouldn’t speculate as to people’s motives. But Karam is also no stranger to such speculation. He presents hearsay as fact when it comes to Robin Bain’s supposed motive. Covering up his incest with his daughter Laniet? Could be. It could also be that David Bain’s motive was covering up incest with his sister Laniet. But it’s all hearsay.

My own view is that Karam has been fooled by a homicidal psychopath.

The forensic evidence points overwhelmingly to David’s guilt.

Waikato DHB’s pro-fluoride campaign

The Waikato DHB spent $47,000 on a pro-fluoride campaign to influence a referendum aimed at getting fluoride put back into Hamilton’s water supply. The campaign achieved its goal and in the referendum 23,000 citizens voted in favour of having fluoride medication and 10,000 voted against.

The action of the DHB is wrong. They shouldn’t be advocating medicating people against their wishes.

A guy I used to work with made an amusing observation about electronic faults we repaired. He said that there were only two types of faults – electricity going where it shouldn’t or electricity not going where it should. There is similar but useful truth about Government faults. With Government each fault is either a bad law or Government not following it own laws.

In this case are the DHB employees driven by bad laws or are they acting against the law?

The Act that prescribes legal DHB activities is the New Zealand Public Health and Disability Act 2000. This legislation refers to the Code of Health and Disability Services Consumers’ Rights which identifies the following right:

Right 7
Right to Make an Informed Choice and Give Informed Consent

So, it appears the DHB employees are acting against the DHB’s own rules. They are acting illegally.

The remedy under this legislation is to make a complaint.

Right 10
Right to Complain

(2) Every consumer may make a complaint to —
… ( C) (ii) the Health and Disability Commissioner.

The complaint I suggest is this:-
The Waikato DHB is advocating medicating people with fluoride against their wishes. This is a breach of Right 7 of the Code of Health and Disability Services Consumers’ Rights (the Right to Make an Informed Choice and Give Informed Consent).

Someone should make this complaint. I don’t feel I can because I’m not a Waikato DHB consumer.

Online complaints can be made here.

Joe Karam did it


Heads up, peeps. Ears out. There’s a defamation trial happening in Auckland today.

Joe Karam’s defamation case against two Justice for Robin Bain members, heads to the High Court in Auckland today.

Kent Parker and Victor Purkiss are defending themselves.

Joe Karam says he has been seriously defamed by the pair.

Kent Parker says today will be a pretrial hearing, the trial proper starts tomorrow.

“We’re being sued by Joe Karam for comments that we’ve made on a Facebook page and on a website, in relation to the Bain case and his participation in it.”

I don’t recall the comments made. I’m looking forward to hearing what they were and whether or not they are considered defamatory.

Preaching to the retarded

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

“Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others. (NIV)

Ayn Rand did not believe her own philosophy. She was smarter than that.

Ayn Rand tied up a heavy, cumbersome load of bollocks and put it on her disciples’ shoulders.

She called it Atlas Shrugged. How’s that for a sense of humour? Wicked. I was wrong.

Some people mistake my own wit and wisdom for cryptic smart-assery. The same people mistake Rand’s cryptic smart-assery for good philosophy. I mistook Rand’s cryptic smart-assery for bad philosophy. But it is neither.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. (NIV)

God so loved the world that He gave us the gift of Life. The gift that keeps on giving.

Ayn Rand so loved herself that she gave the world the gift of Objectivism. The gift that keeps on taking.

Men have a weapon against you. Reason. So you must be very sure to take it away from them. Cut the props from under it. But be careful. Don’t deny outright, you give your hand away. Don’t say reason is evil – though some have gone that far with astonishing success. Just say that reason is limited. That there’s something above it. What? You don’t have to be too clear about it either. The field is inexhaustible. “Instinct’ – ‘Feeling’ – ‘Revelation’ – ‘Divine Intuition’ – ‘Dialectic Materialism’. If you get caught at some crucial point and somebody tells you that your doctrine doesn’t make sense – you’re ready for him. You tell him there’s something above sense. That here he must not try to think, but to feel He must believe. Suspend reason and you play it deuces wild. Anything goes in any manner you wish whenever you need it. You’ve got him. Can you rule a thinking man? We don’t want any thinking men.

Rand didn’t want any thinking men. Philosophy. Who needs it? Rand didn’t want her disciples needing it or reading it, which is why, on the one hand, she disparaged philosophy and philosphers, especially modern ones, and on the other hand, she exalted herself to the heights of Aristotle and Aquinas. As predicted by the Law of Intended Consequences, Rand’s debased disciples don’t think, they proclaim.

Rand didn’t want any thinking men. She just wanted to be called ‘Rabbi’ by dumbfounded dipshits. She got what she wanted. Good and hard.


Objectivism is a Trojan Horse. Woe to those who allow it through the gates of their tiny minds. For Rand was, indeed, packing a snake. A talking one.

Objectivism. Who needs it? There is another gift. A gift beyond human reach. Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find a hidden treasure, a pearl of great price. Why settle for the baubles of Ayn Rand’s orifice?



It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen[a] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. (NIV)

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (NIV)