The lonely road. My divorce from John Ansell.

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This morning I severed communications with one of New Zealands most vocal opponents to Waitangi Apartheid.
John Ansell.
This is not a move I take lightly.
I have spend thousands of my own dollars that could have gone towards my family, my taxes, etc supporting John and his quest to expose the revisionist history which is corrupting the minds of our fellow New Zealanders, and to rally support for the cause of the establishment of One Law for all.
I even missed out on going to see my favorite band in the whole world, choosing to put those funds behind John Ansell.
I do not regret any of this.
I believe it was the right thing to do.
Nor do I reverse my position on the righteousness of the cause to establish Race-free government.

John has many character faults that make working with him difficult, yet I am dis-associating myself from him primarily because I find his attitude towards Muslims to be extremely bigoted…. John Ansell is an incurable Islamaphobe, and because his underlying Political philosophy is bereft of Principle,exposing much of his argument against Watangi apartheid as mere rhetoric.
I believe on these scores, he is not an asset to the cause of ‘One Law for all’, but a liability, and wonder if John would be so vocal against racist laws…in times and places where white folk like himself had the legal advantages?

I have no intention of doing dirty laundry in public, yet I find it essential that I publicly distance myself from him, and I cannot do so without a minimum of explanation.
Nor did I make this decision without having first trying to break through to my friend, by exposing the willful ignorance his xenophobia is founded upon, or the evils of his political philosophy… unchecked mandate of majority… which is purely arbitrary Law… purely Mob rule….. ie the delusions of absolute democracy.

Early on… like so many Islamiphobes John… in the throws of Terrorist paranoia… would spout ‘Where are the voices of the so-called moderates?’, yet even after I presented countless examples, one which evidenced 1.5 million Muslims signing a petition that they opposed Isis, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban, John was not moved… but said “When they condemn the violence of Mohammed then he might reconsider ”

This proves John is a Bigot… incapable of distinguishing peaceful and tolerant Muslims, from terrorist extremists.
He is beyond reason.
Out of reach.
Isis/ Daesh smiles.

children bombs
Syrian children take shelter from Russian Bombs.

John is not moved at Innocent Syrian children washing up on the beaches of Europe… and that is not a person I wish to associate with or support.
He cannot protest my assertion because of his ‘Closed boarders’ attitude towards Muslim Refugees, and support for the Mad man Donald Trump.

One of the hardest things for Libertarians like myself to do is to give our support and political wisdom to single interest Lobby groups such as ‘One Law for all’, or ‘Ending cannabis prohibition’ type groups even though in principle we believe their causes to be just.
The reason being virtually all of them…. their motives are not pure… but absolutely self centered, causing them to reject the righteous Libertarian solutions to their problems.
This is because in *every other sphere of politics*, they side with tyranny… they desire the perpetuation of other injustices which would fall if they embraced *Principles*.
So for example this means the many activists against cannabis prohibition, are also activists for Tobacco prohibition and balk at constitutional restraints that though they would end cannabis prohibition, would also protect cigarette smokers from their bigotry.
Everyone wants freedom for themselves, but oppression for others they don’t like or fear.
They want free speech for themselves, yet Prohibitions on other opinions, etc.

John is like this.
As White victim of prejudice he wants liberation, yet on most other counts he loves tyranny, and actually works against me in my quest for *The Rule of Law* above arbitrary whim.
And so over the years I have noticed just how one-sided the relationship has been for me with just about every single issue lobby group I have tried to help.
While I am busy furnishing them with arms… they are busy marginalising my influence… virtually never giving me a help up when the media gives them opportunity… because deep down… they dont want my ideas to triumph.
This is most noticeable with Act party Supporters who love to claim they are classical liberals yet always take care never to promote Libertarians… they in reality prefer the company of socialists!
An example of this is Act man Garry Mallet’s new group running for Hamilton city council, claiming to represent many of the policies he knows I have tirelessly work for over the last 15 years… yet he has not called me to join him.
He probably thinks ‘I’m too radical. ‘Too unelectable’, etc… these are the sorts of excuses the compromisers love to salve their own consciences with when they know they are betraying the virtuous idealists who bravely proclaim their Libertarianism.
Even writing this ‘is evidence’ in their minds that Libertarians are incapable of diplomacy.

Most of these un-principled types have a common political hash-up which makes both left and right virtually indistinguishable at heart… they all claim to be Democrats that oppose constitution restraints on parliament. (for reasons enunciated above)

Years ago I wrote this in support of Frank Bainimarama… “Democracy is simply a counting of heads regardless of content. True liberty exists only when the inalienable rights of all individuals, regardless of race or colour, are put beyond the vote.
Belief in the ‘democracy fallacy’ [as being synonymous with the rule of law] is so prevalent however that when a democracy is overthrown, even a racist democracy such as Fiji’s undeniably was, many immediately say that the perpetrators are dangerous criminals!

The reality is that democracy can be as unjust as an absolute monarchy, and it is just as immoral for a parliament to grant legal favouritism upon the grounds of race as it is for a king to do so, no matter how many people might vote for it!

The rule of law means the rule of principles of justice especially of the principle of equality before the law – equality for all, regardless of race! The democratic “mandate of the majority” is a valid way of choosing who should be in government, but not a valid way of justifying how they govern, or what laws they pass, nor an automatic justification of any law proposed by a democratic Parliament! Democracy is not synonymous with freedom…”

The Rule of law is not getting a majority in parliament… which can be orchestrated by any popular phobia monger at election time, or crisis (like terrorism), but an Iron clad constitution which keeps parliament from arbitrarily passing laws that violate the rights of unpopular minorities, and enshrines other safeguards such as the right to free speech and to bear arms.
I know saying that last thing just spooked the sheeple who only see guns as tools for criminals… never as tools for Good people to defend themselves from criminals, and Evil governments.

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And so here we are looking at the absolutely misguided faith in Government… the absolutely ridiculous desire to leave parliament free to enact any law whatsoever it can convince the country it has a mandate ‘from the people’.
This exposes us all to the whiles and evils of Party politics… Fashions… and the fears of the present moment.
And peoples lives get trodden underfoot every day.

John says “I like binding referenda… I believe in the wisdom of the crowd, as long as the crowd is INFORMED. So along with the referenda, you’d need to have higher standards of communication and debate”… which is convenient for his proposes being a member of the Majority race, and being a political conservative… with all the popular phobias and prejudices that go along with it.
Yet what if Maori were the greater number?
Would John accept his fate as a second class citizen simply because a Binding referenda mandated Treaty separatism? (which is basically what already have)

People like John. Like so many others are not *real* defenders of justice, but whiney bitches who dont like their own medicine.
They dont have the answers to the world political problems because deep down the dont love the principles of justice… just their own opinions.

Whereas Libertarians like myself will go out on a limb even for people who we believe hold very foolish and Bad Ideas… for the sake of Liberty and equality before the law.
I’m a Christian, not a Muslim. I think Islam is a dangerous false religion, yet I also know that it is possible to peacefully co-exist with Muslims who simply reciprocate the good will, and tolerance I seek to accord them.
This is where hope is found and the way forward for peace that Libertarianism holds forth, yet because Libertarianism threatens to destroy the powers and vested interests of the status quo the light of Libertarianism is marginalised and shaded by those who would rather the world burn… and children continue to be blown pieces than surrender any of their power and prejudice.

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Posted by Save Humanity on Saturday, December 5, 2015

It was with sadness that have Facebook un-friended John, and blocked him for now, yet I sincerely hope that John grows and changes his mind, and that some day we can fight again together for a race free government in New Zealand.
I hope my words above do not provoke greater hardness of heart, but the reverse…. that if indeed there is still any reason left in him, that he may become conscious of his errors, and thereby be self-empowered to forsake them for the higher path.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

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More from Tim…

Tim Wikiriwhi’s Submission to the New Zealand Government’s Constitutional Review. 2013

What can we do? Socialism’s Tungsten shell, and the refugee crisis

TREATYGATE Hamilton…introducing John Ansell

John Ansell’s Challange To End Racist Government In New Zealand.

John in the Lions Den.

Together New Zealand’ presents ‘TREATYGATE’. Hamilton. 16-5-13.

Post Script: In Discussions of my post one atheist asserted:
” Johns question re Mohammed is correct and the one every Muslim should be fronted with.”

And because of the nature of this assertion, I believe it is worth me giving a reply….

“Simple minds will insist this valid.
Simple minds are what keep the wars of the world hot and fresh.

There are however some *principles* we can apply…. principles Atheists claim to be the champions of… yet by their deeds and follies they show they have no clue as to how to apply them.

The Chief one being that a free society *Separates Religion from the state*.

This being so if we desire to live in peace and freedom, we must form *a peace treaty* with those who believe different things to ourselves.

Thus the Libertarians social compact does not put *any conditions* other that the agreement to form a society of equal liberty and rights before the law.

This cuts off all the disagreement about other peoples perversions… as long as they consent to these minimum conditions. so opinions about Muhammad, Joshua, Jesus, Transubstantiation. Aliens, Gay sex, etc have no place in this discussion.

Once the compact is agreed upon, by all sides… this sets the terms and conditions for future peaceful dialogue, debate… all the while *having equality and freedom* protected. so that evenif agreement about such things as the goodness of Muhammad are never settled…. we still have peace, and liberty, and safeguards protecting *the unpopular* from the popular.

So Of course *I* being a christian reserve the right to critisisze Islam, atheism, homosexuality, abortion, etc… yet I don’t mix this into my political tenets…. *because I’m a real Libertarian*
And I First desire peaceful co-existence.
I reserve that for the sphere of religious liberty.

*Yet Fools like John Ansell* basically *impose* their religious opinions on everyone*

Do I make myself clear?

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

Postscript 2:

I find it necessary to add further comment directly to my post to address another important caveat.
I do not deny that many ideologies contain elements dangerous to Liberty, Justice, and Humanity.
I spend a lot of my life pointing out these evils and tendencies that corrode the mind.
So I do sympathise with John regarding his concerns about Islam.
Obviously from the actions of The Taliban, Isis, and other Islamic powers, there definitely are Muslims who are zealous of enshrining Brutal Islamic Theocracies, yet again those of us with a better understanding of History also know that at certain times Islamic States have been very tolerant and enlightened, more so that their Barbarous and backward western counterparts which usurped the name of Christendom.

I am a Protestant Christian, and interpret the Reformation as a great reforming process bringing Christianity back to it’s original Liberal and Non-official roots as a voluntary society of believers…. from the tyrannies of the Holy Roman Empire.
And it was a return to the Doctrines of Grace that Libertarianism was born.

I also think it pretty rich for John to point the finger at Islam when he himself is a Atheist.
I have my own view of Atheism as being very detrimental to the value of the human life, objective morality, and the fundamentals of Libertarianism… ie it’s corrosion of the Ideals of God given Inalienable rights and Equality of human Individuals.
Social Darwinism was the primary ideology behind the Nazi Holocaust and Eugenics program.

Yet I do not suggest these dangerous nihilisms make it impossible for Atheists to endorse a Libertarian social compact… though atheism tends towards the abandonment of moral principles in favour of pragmatic Utilitarianism/ Mob rule.

And this is similar the grave mistake people like John make when they Quote Theocratic verses from the Koran that sanction the killing of infidels, and imposition of sharia law.
They say this is black and white evidence that Muslims *cannot* endorse a Libertarian social compact/ or peacefully co-exist with Non-Muslims under a secular society which separates Religion from the Laws of the land.

Yet Reality itself refutes these assertions.
While I agree these assertions identify a definite tendency towards the undesirable, they are in no way an inevitable conclusion, as is empirically proven by the Millions of Muslims who live peacefully in western societies, many of whom love Freedom… understand what that means… because they fled Islamic States and Sharia Law because of experiencing it’s brutality first hand.

Again I point John and co towards the safeguards that every democracy needs to prevent sectarian dominance and violations of Liberty and Justice ie *A Libertarian constitution* that cannot be violated by shyster politicians who seek elections by promising vest interests to make their bigotries the law of the land.

The American constitution and it’s amendments were very close to this yet as Satan works, and fire his darts, and managed to tempt Americans to abandon the principles of the constitution… so too has tyranny, debt, and injustice taken root and multiplied.
As Generations have come and gone… the great truths that founded America have slowly been forsaken and abandoned so that only sheepish ignorance remains.

This is why there can be no compromise at any point of the principles of libertarianism… even in times of Crisis.
The price of Liberty is always, and for ever Eternal vigilance.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.

more from Tim on these aspects.

Protestant Christianity had a Baby… Libertarianism.

The Christian Fellowship is a voluntary private society, not a theocratic political movement.

Atheism has no basis for Rights… or Morals.

Materialism renders Man Nought. Meaning-less, Value-less, Right-less

16 thoughts on “The lonely road. My divorce from John Ansell.”

    1. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

      I have added this post script:

      Post Script: In Discussions of my post one atheist asserted:
      ” Johns question re Mohammed is correct and the one every Muslim should be fronted with.”

      And because of the nature of this assertion, I believe it is worth me giving a reply….

      “Simple minds will insist this valid.
      Simple minds are what keep the wars of the world hot and fresh.

      There are however some *principles* we can apply…. principles Atheists claim to be the champions of… yet by their deeds and follies they show they have no clue as to how to apply them.

      The Chief one being that a free society *Separates Religion from the state*.

      This being so if we desire to live in peace and freedom, we must form *a peace treaty* with those who believe different things to ourselves.

      Thus the Libertarians social compact does not put *any conditions* other that the agreement to form a society of equal liberty and rights before the law.

      This cuts off all the disagreement about other peoples perversions… as long as they consent to these minimum conditions. so opinions about Muhammad, Joshua, Jesus, Transubstantiation. Aliens, Gay sex, etc have no place in this discussion.

      Once the compact is agreed upon, by all sides… this sets the terms and conditions for future peaceful dialogue, debate… all the while *having equality and freedom* protected. so that evenif agreement about such things as the goodness of Muhammad are never settled…. we still have peace, and liberty, and safeguards protecting *the unpopular* from the popular.

      So Of course *I* being a christian reserve the right to critisisze Islam, atheism, homosexuality, abortion, etc… yet I don’t mix this into my political tenets…. *because I’m a real Libertarian*
      And I First desire peaceful co-existence.
      I reserve that for the sphere of religious liberty.

      *Yet Fools like John Ansell* basically *impose* their religious opinions on everyone*

      Do I make myself clear?

      Tim Wikiriwhi
      Christian Libertarian.

      1. Tim

        I am aware of what often happens to people who intervene in other peoples ‘debates’ but because of the basic flaws I perceive in your response I felt foolish enough to do so.

        First – you say “The Chief one being that a free society *Separates Religion from the state*.”

        I agree with that statement, but Islam doesn’t. How do you engage with your Muslim neighbour when he or she insists you are wrong on that fundamental premise, based upon their Islamic beliefs. The Scriptures say ‘how can two walk together unless they be agreed’ and this exposes the lie of multiculturalism. We can have a multi racial society that is uni-cultural (or perhaps just a teeny bit bi-cultural) but multiculturalism in an oxymoron. In such a society there will always be a competition for dominance by one culture over another.

        You then go on to say “Once the compact is agreed upon, by all sides… this sets the terms and conditions for future peaceful dialogue, debate… all the while *having equality and freedom* protected.”

        Except it doesn’t does it, because that compact will never be agreed upon by all sides, at least not by all Muslims and never by Islam.

        What your post reveals to me, is that libertarianism, like all ideologies, blinds its faithful adherents in the same way Islam blinds devout Muslims.

        As I mentioned in my previous post, Mark Hubbard’s eyes have been opened to that fact. For all the beauty and obvious simplicity of libertarianism it takes no account of the human condition, and is therefore abstracted from reality.

        Consequently it doesn’t work in a world that is populated by more than one person, or where people fundamentally disagree about the nature of man and society.

        Blessings
        Brendan

        1. You are simply wrong that *Muslims cant separate their faith from the state*
          Millions do exactly that, irrespective of any assertions to the contrary … that such a thing is impossible.
          Countless numbers Flee to the west to escape Sharia Law having felt it’s tyrannical sting.

          So People who say All Islamics are hell bent on a theocracy cant see the wood for the trees.
          Empirical evidence refutes such shallow notions, and this what is wrong with outsiders telling insiders what their religion demands.
          Most Christians tell I cant be a Libertarian too!
          well nuts to them!

          1. and dont fear debating me, I appreciate comments, yet sometimes I wont reply because I simply stand by my original moot, and other times I’m short on time and energy.

          2. Tim

            You have misrepresented what I said. I didn’t say “*Muslims cant separate their faith from the state*”

            What I did say was:

            “that compact will never be agreed upon by all sides, at least not by all Muslims and never by Islam.”

            Muslims engage with Islam like Christians engage with their faith – in a spectrum from nominalism to fundamentalism.

            The problem is not with Muslims as human beings, it is with Islam as a religious/political ideology.

            Unfortunately, there is no way anyone can easily tell where any Muslim sits on that spectrum, or once resident in NZ if they, or their children will go full jihad and wreak vengeance upon the infidel as exampled by Mohammad 1400 years ago, and by Farook who followed his example in San Bernardino just last week.

            An action that unfortunately is fully endorsed by their scriptures and repeated throughout 1400 years of history. Once again, not by all Muslims of course.

            However, if a free society is to retain its liberty, there is only so much illiberality it can import and still remain free. That should be obvious.

            There is a reason why some communities in Europe look and function more like those of the Middle East than what we once knew as London Stockholm and Paris.

            Is it reasonable therefore for citizens of liberal pluralistic democracies to withhold entrance to people whose faith and history demonstrates an inability to fully embrace our values and our way of life?

            Are our liberties enhanced or diminished by welcoming jihadists and fellow Muslims who provide them with ideological, financial and cultural support, even if they are just a small minority of all those who embrace Islam?

            In other words, is violent jihad in the west simply the price we have to pay in order to maintain an open borders ideological position, and is that a reasonable proposition for us to accept?

            I say ‘nuts’ to that. 🙂

  1. Hi Tim

    We don’t always agree, but that doesn’t stop me from linking to your blog site, or from you linking to mine, (albeit I just note the link appears to have been removed). 🙂

    I don’t know much about John Ansell so I’m not going to defend the man here on your blog. What I will say however in respect to our Christian response to Syrian refugees, we would do well to learn from Jesus example of the Good Samaritan as to what it means to be ‘a neighbour’ to someone in deep need.

    Note, the Good Samaritan had compassion on the injured man, took him to an Inn, paid for his care and promised to make up the shortfall on his return.

    Note well, he did not take him home.

    He took him to a ‘safe space’ where he could receive care. If we did this for Syrian refugees, we would be meeting Jesus ‘gold standard’ for being a good neighbour. He does not require us to bring Syrians here, and to be honest, we would have rocks in our heads to do so.

    I’d encourage you to read this short, but sensible blog post on the subject by experienced US diplomat Pat Buchanan:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/trump-unhinges-the-establishment/

    I note libertarian Mark Hubbard has also walked back from open border immigration, and I deeply respect him for not only that decision, but the ability to trust his lying eyes over his ideology.

    http://lifebehindtheirondrape.blogspot.co.nz/2015/11/paris-has-changed-me-logic-bombing-left.html

    Blessings
    Brendan

    1. > We don’t always agree, but that doesn’t stop me from linking to your blog site, or from you linking to mine, (albeit I just note the link appears to have been removed). 🙂

      Link’s definitely still there on our blogroll, Brendan. It’s under “Let’s rock” (for Christians), not under “Let’s roll” (for the heathens). 🙂

  2. I have added a second important post script.

    Postscript 2:

    I find it necessary to add further comment directly to my post to address another important caveat.
    I do not deny that many ideologies contain elements dangerous to Liberty, Justice, and Humanity.
    I spend a lot of my life pointing out these evils and tendencies that corrode the mind.
    So I do sympathise with John regarding his concerns about Islam.
    Obviously from the actions of The Taliban, Isis, and other Islamic powers, there definitely are Muslims who are zealous of enshrining Brutal Islamic Theocracies, yet again those of us with a better understanding of History also know that at certain times Islamic States have been very tolerant and enlightened, more so that their Barbarous and backward western counterparts which usurped the name of Christendom.

    I am a Protestant Christian, and interpret the Reformation as a great reforming process bring Christianity back to it’s original Liberal and Non-official roots as a voluntary society of believers…. from the tyrannies of the Holy Roman Empire.

    I also see it as being pretty rich for John to point the finger at Islam when he himself is a Atheist.
    I have my own view of Atheism as being very detrimental to both the value of the human individual, objective morality, and the fundamentals of Libertarianism… ie it’s corrossion of the Ideals of God given Inalienable rights and Equality of human Individuals.
    Social Darwinism was the primary ideology behind the Nazi Holocaust and Eugenics program.

    Yet I do not suggest these dangerous nihilisms make it impossible for Atheists to endorse a Libertarian social compact… though atheism tends towards the abandonment of moral principles in favour of pragmatic Utilitarianism/ Mob rule.

    And this is similar the grave mistake people like John make when they Quote Theocratic verses from the Koran that sanction the killing of infidels, and imposition of sharia law.
    They say this is black and white evidence that Muslims *cannot* endorse a Libertarian social compact/ or peacefully co-exist with Non-Muslims under a secular society which separates Religion from the Laws of the land.

    Yet Reality itself refutes these assertions.
    While I agree these assertions identify a definite tendency towards the undesirable, they are in no way an inevitable conclusion, as is empirically proven by the Millions of Muslims who live peacefully in western societies, many of whom love Freedom… understand what that means… because they fled Islamic States and Sharia Law because of experiencing it’s brutality first hand.

    Again I point John and co towards the safeguards that every democracy needs to prevent sectarian dominance and violations of Liberty and Justice ie *A Libertarian constitution* that cannot be violated by shyster politicians who seek elections by promising vest interests to make their bigotries the law of the land.

    The American constitution and it’s amendments were very close to this yet as Satan works, and fire his darts, and managed to tempt Americans to abandon the principles of the constitution… so too has tyranny, debt, and injustice taken root and multiplied.
    As Generations have come and gone… the great truths that founded America have slowly been forsaken and abandoned so that only sheepish ignorance remains.

    This is why there can be no compromise at any point of the principles of libertarianism… even in times of Crisis.
    The price of Liberty is always, and for ever Eternal vigilance.

    Tim Wikiriwhi.
    Christian Libertarian.

    Protestant Christianity had a Baby… Libertarianism.

    The Christian Fellowship is a voluntary private society, not a theocratic political movement.

    Atheism has no basis for Rights… or Morals.

    Materialism renders Man Nought. Meaning-less, Value-less, Right-less

  3. I too am a strong supported of John Ansell.

    All I can say is the picture you paint is lightyears from the picture I know. And I too am well acquainted with John.

    Take a look at Lebanon if you want to see how serious the Islamic threat *can* be.

    And it is and has been totally clear that John Ansell differentiates between the moderates and the Muslimanics. Though, there are concerns for us in telling them apart.

    1. What Andrew, is your personal belief?
      I guarantee you I can find examples where your beliefs have led to barbarisms.
      I guarantee you I can find Your Scriptures/ prophets that promote barbarisms.
      I put $50.00 on this and I dont even know you… that is how sure I am.
      People like you simply dont get it.
      *You cherry pick* your own Proofs. both for your self, and against others.
      Ie you are a Subjectivist of the worst type…. like John…. because you dont have a clue what you are even doing.
      Nor do you give me credit for my understanding of the real life evils that underpin Islamaphobia…. as if somehow I must not appreciate just how evil some Muslim powers and ideas are…. because you assume if I did know…. I would agree with You and John.
      Let me tell you that I am fully aware…yet still I choose the Brave high road, rather than the cowardly low road… the road of prohibitions and fences, and reciprocal hatred…. That road that prefers to do nothing while children drown by the hundreds… and sleep in the woods… in the rain and snow…. rather than risk getting shot by the odd nutter/ fanatic.
      So here we are…. you pick where you stand, and I pick where I stand.

      1. I am an agnostic.

        I don’t care about the “scriptures”, but how people relate to them. And that I know has more to do with child abuse than anything else. As I so often say – crazy ideas can only survive in crazy minds.

        The only thing I care about is the calculable threat associated with immigrating Muslims. Ancient history and ideology in itself means nothing to me. What the Christians (or whoever) did 1,000 years ago is completely beside the point.

        ——————————————————

        Here is a way to express my orientation:

        [hypothetical] letter, from The New Zealand Government to the Islamic world:

        According to our research 1 in 4 Muslims are latent terrorists, because they believe it is right to kill Infidels (non-Muslims) who do not submit to their idea of Allah and his laws.

        If we had the power to reliably differentiate between the 25% and the other 75%, so we could know who the moderate Muslims are and who the dangerous Muslims are, then we would do so.

        And likewise, we would willingly open our doors to the moderates while keeping the extremists out.

        However, and unfortunately, we do not have the power to differentiate between the moderates and extremists. This means that for every four Muslims we immigrate, one of them would be a terrorist or a potential terrorist.

        We simply cannot accept that kind of risk.

        So with a heavy heart, we must deny all Muslims entry to New Zealand. Until, at least, we develop the capacity to filter out the extremists from the general Muslim population.

        Please respect that this is not “Muslim bashing”. We are entirely aware that 75% of the Muslim population is composed of respectable people. Our policy is simply a function of necessary risk management.

        Again, we ask that the greater Muslim world please accept our apologies, in that our security concerns make it so that we simply cannot accommodate them at this time.

        Yours Sincerely,

        John Key

        1. This character assassination is defamatory, Tim. I invite you now to support your assertions and assumptions with evidence.

          From memory, you took issue with my criticism of ACT’s open borders policy, which you and they justified in the name of eternal tolerance at any cost.

          (The opposite of the eternal vigilance you otherwise espouse — which, in respect of the Islamisation of the West, I agree with.)

          You are quite right that I share the same view on keeping one’s nation safe as the American you describe as a “madman”.

          In the three years since you wrote this post, sufficient millions of Americans disagreed with you, and agreed with Trump and me, to make him president. Such has been his success at delivering on his promises that he is likely to remain so for another five years.

          Petulant children and other traitors may consider it “bigoted” to keep their country safe from ideologies committed to destroying it.

          But most grownups, in my experience, consider that the wise thing to do.

          In the cause of liberty, you have every right to throw your toys, provided they don’t strike anyone else.

          But your supposed Christian ethics, to say nothing of the law, should restrain you from striking someone down for the “crime” on not sharing your opinion.

          While any sane analysis of your diatribe will reveal no evidence of the hatred you ascribe to me, nonetheless your slurs have been visible to Google searchers for four years.

          I await your evidence with interest.

  4. Are you still blocking me, Tim?

    In other words, is the hypocrite who campaigns under the truism that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance …

    … — while simultaneously virtue-signalling his eternal tolerance of the most cruelly intolerant ideology known to man — …

    .., still intolerant of my point of view?

    (Which all of your uncensored commenters agree with.)

    In other words, are you still denying me my freedom of speech? My right of reply to your various defamatory attempts at character assassination?

    Do you intend to spell out for your readers my “character flaws” that make me “difficult to work with”?

    Or are you going to continue to take the coward’s route and allow them to assume that I must be dishonest or otherwise irrational?

    (Rather than simply have a low threshold of tolerance for those who are — as I would argue characterises every single one of my political partings of the way.)

    This is a test, Tim, not of my character, but yours.

    Your commenters have given you a taste of what I expected would be the response to your slurs.

    You are fundamentally a good man, Tim Wikiriwhi.

    You hosted me in your home. You helped provide a venue for my speech. And a fulsome introduction.

    But how good a Christian are you really?

    How good a Christian are you when you do things like this?

    When you deliberately twist the words of other good men like me?

    You called me an Atheist. And that was true, in the sense of my not belonging to a church.

    I remain wary of man-made mind-control programmes.

    But had you asked me, I would have told you that I had experienced evidence of a spiritual realm.

    I have experienced more of that evidence since.

    But regardless, I am the same good person I have always been.

    I did not lie then, and I do not lie now.

    Can you say the same?

    This might be an opportunity to show us that you have changed your ways since 2015.

  5. John,
    I have just noticed your comment on the blog admin dashboard when sweeping for spam (this blog gets hit hard), and yet it did not appear in the recent comments side bar or in the comments below that 2015 post.
    I am not sure why… I certainly have neither any recollection of blocking you or in fact any knowledge that that function existed so not sure how that happened.
    I can understand how that looks, and I also appreciate that it would have caused you some angst believing I was intentionally preventing you from arguing in your own defense.
    This Blog is in fact run by 4 people, yet as it turns out I appear to be the only contributor in recent years.
    Did one of the other guys block you?
    That does not make any sense to me, yet I have no explanation… unless I did do it… and have forgotten.
    I must say that I think that is highly unlikely as I did not even know Blocking people was possible until today.

    Because of that situation I shall overlook some of the slurs your comment has cast upon me as I judge them to be in context of this issue I have just addressed.

    Update: I have just re-read most of the post I wrote 6 years ago and notice I did say I blocked you John *on Facebook*… but not here at Eternal vigilance blog, and when I was on facebook I blocked many people, not because I had any desire to ‘Censor’ anyone but because I did not wish to see their posts appearing daily in my own news feed.
    That is *not censorship* but exercising my own right to separate myself from people I disagree with… and yet those people are still fully free to carry on expressing their own views until the cows come home… Its just That I would never see it, nor would they be pestered by my personal views with which they disagree… and that is best for all involved… because it keeps the peace… and all parties go their own way…
    I did not have the time or energy to spend in endless arguments with people who have no intention of truly contemplating what I was saying… and that is their right.
    I have the right to moderate my own News feed to my liking.

    This all happened so long ago now I had put it behind me.
    I am no longer on facebook…. so obviously I am no longer ‘blocking you’ on that platform either… so consider yourself ‘fully unblocked’.

    http://eternalvigilance.nz/2021/01/bye-bye-my-facebook-people-its-time-to-go/

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